The Shame of Ireland
The Irish Times – Saturday, February 4, 2012
THE MINISTER for Education is to write to the 18 religious congregations, which ran residential institutions where children were abused, asking them to contribute more towards the €1.2 billion bill for compensating victims.
The letter from Ruairí Quinn follows questions put to Taoiseach Enda Kenny in the Dáil yesterday about the status of the payment of compensation by the congregations.
In 2009, the Ryan commission published its finding that children put into State care in religious-run residential institutions had suffered systemic abuse. Under the 2002 indemnity agreement, the congregations agreed to provide a contribution of €128 million to those abused, comprising cash, property and counselling services.
The final cost of the response to residential institutional child abuse, however, has since been estimated to be in the region of €1.36 billion. The Government said last year that it believed this should be shared on a 50-50 basis, between the taxpayer and those responsible for managing the institutions where the abuse took place.
Last July, Mr Quinn expressed his disappointment at the level of contributions offered by religious congregations to meet costs of the compensation, saying that offers from the religious congregations to date had fallen far short of the amount needed.
The department said yesterday that the letter had already been in train, before the questions received by the Taoiseach, and that the correspondence was “the official expression” of what Mr Quinn had asked of the congregations last summer.
A spokeswoman confirmed that the letter would be sent in the next fortnight.
Robert, Quinn only want the money for the exchecker he dont give a f!!!!k about us survivers.
all he done was agree to Biffos proposals with the consent of Barry Buckley and Treanor,
that lot sold us all down the river for their own personal gains,
There is a Petition on the Home Page which I have been Promoting TO TAKE THE REDRESS ACT 2002 TO THE EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS VOTE @ http://bit.ly/hi398P Sadly it Triggered Automatically @ 5,000 Signatures. It Currently Stands @ 977 I have though my efforts had 616 Hits on it. How many of those Hits convert to Signatures I cannot say? If Members are on Facebook or Twitter they can help?
There are other Live Petitions on the Home Page that we can Sign and promote?
Bankers are now the most vulnerable in society.
ROBERT HOW COME ROP IS BEEN RUN BY FRANCIS TREANOR (A SO CALLED BARRISTER)
INSTEAD OF CLEANING OUT ROP WITH HIS LARGE EXPENSE ACOUNT (TRAVELING FROM GALWAY
TO WATERFORD KERRY CORK DUBLIN AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY)TO CHAIR MEETINGS
AND WATCH THAT IDIOT DUO THE WALSHES (DUMB AND DUMBER)
I JUST READ A LOAD OF CRAP FROM THE AGM MEETING HELD IN WATERFORD.IT STINKS
OF TREANOR,HE SHOULD GET HIS FINGER OUT AND ACT AS A BARRISTER NOT A DICTATOR
AND BRING THE GOVERNMENT TO THE EUROPEAN COURT OF JUSTICE ALSO SUE THE POPE
AND EARN THE BLOODY MONIES HE IS MAKING (REMEMBER HE KEPT BARRY IN POWER THAN
CHANGED OVER TO DUMB AND DUMMER WHEN IT BECAME MORE PROFITABLE.
Thanks for pointing out my spelling Michael ,of course that was the great education i got in Greenmount
Industrial school ,which you never went to one.
With all your qualifications and self praise you should check your own spellings some time
if all you have to do is comment on the spelling and not the truth or the hundreds of unanswered
questions that you your father and treanor wont answer ,helping survivers my a!!. all ye are is a
bunch of parisites with yere wages and expenses bleeding survisors dry
where are you micheal countinfg your money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Walsh, as a (So Called) outreach officer, you make me sick. Is this the best you can do, to criticize a Survivor for a misspelling error. You are (SUPPOSED) to be an outreach officer? I repeat (SUPPOSED) to be.
And you expect Survivors to take you seriously? Are you for real? Worse again, you are NOT even a Survivor yourself, and you have the Cheek to correct a Survivor who was never even taught the basics in these Industrial Schools. How bloody dare you, you PUP.
Is this what Outreach officers do, slag Survivors off online for making spelling mistakes?
Remember Mr Walsh, in case you do NOT understand, the Majority of us Survivors got NO education what so ever. Not like you, with all these titles (Probably Bought) on your Made Up (Curriculum Vitae) posted on your despicable Web-site.
How dare you mock, and jeer at the inadequacy of a Survivor, who has the misfortune to make an error in spelling on this, or Any site for that matter. It just goes to show, your complete Ignorance, and total lack of Understanding of Survivors, how they think, and how they feel. The very people who your MOB are getting Thousands of euros every year to represent, and (SUPPOSEDLY) help?
Your father, as bad as he may be, im sure will NOT be very impressed with Junior making such a Stupid comment on this site.
Is this how outreach officers behave Mr Walsh? Is this How outreach officers are supposed to behave?
If so, then there is never going to be ANY hope for Any Survivor to get the proper Redress, with Total Muppets like you running the show.
I recall Mr Micheal Walsh, on many many occasions, where you yourself have made many many spelling errors on many of these sites, and know only too well if need be, i could muster the lot of them together, and make a laughing stock of you.
But NO i wont lower myself to your standards, i will leave you to ponder on what you have done.
Go back to your Father, and learn some lessons in manners, and the proper way to Address Survivors, which you have failed so miserably in so far, you MORAN.
Mr Walsh, i dont recall anybody calling you stupid, so where that came from i don't know? You should get your facts right before you say things like that.
Why you had to refer to the Gentleman's error in the first place really is beyond me. It does Not say a lot for a person who is in the position you hold as outreach officer in the Waterford region.
You say he knows nothing about you. Everyone knows exactly Who you are, and How you got to where you are. You don't need to be a rocket Scientist to figure that one out.
I have Never seen a good deed you have done, or your group for that matter, for ANY Survivor.
Your stage manager recently put up a (14) page full of BULL on your site about all the good changes your Company is going to do in the future.
Who do you lot think you are talking to? These are Survivors, who you claim to be interacting with. Most survivors would NOT have a clue how to go about Interpreting this load of Gobboldy Gooch BULL. you have put up on your site.
Of course, it all looks really well for your Sponsors, Great window dressing, but total Rubbish to the ordinary Survivor, who might as well be looking into a hole filled with Thrash. because that is exactly what all of this is.
You say you are one of the people who is trying to interact with people on this site?
May i ask you Mr Walsh, WHAT people are you trying to interact with? Because it most certainly is NOT the Survivor, as you speak a different language to the one they understand.
You DO NOT understand Constructive Comments as you put in Micheal. You do not even try to answer ANY questions Survivors put to you.
you were very quick to answer My recent posting were you not?
Pity you could not be as quick to answer the Relevant questions Survivors are asking you, instead of telling everyone how great your Pathetic group is.
Is it ANY wonder you are getting Negative Vibes from Survivors on these sites. You are living on another planet ALL OF YOU.
My comments Mr Walsh are NOT Insidious, or SLY. I come straight to the point. You are the one being Insidious and Sly, just like the lot of you in there, also these comments are most certainly Unjustified. Not by a long shot.
You thank Rob for one reason Micheal, so you can put your comments up here, using his Site, and try and FOB off the decent Survivors with your Negative views.
Try using your own Website Mr Walsh, and tell your own (So Called) membership the Truth, you so often waffle on about. We are sick of the lot of you.
MICHEAL I SEE YOU HAVE ERASED YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT ME
FROM THIS SITE. TREANOR MUST HAVE BEEN ON TO YOU ,
YOU SAID I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU, YOU MUST BE JOKING
DADDY GIVES YOU THE JOB OF OUTREACH WORKER A NICE LITTLE NUMBER.
AT SURVIVORS EXPENSE, (A SURVIVOR SHOULD HAVE THAT JOB )AT LEAST
ONE WOULD KNOW THE STANDARD OF EDUCATION THAT WE GOT IN
THE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS. MAYBE YOUR FATHER WILL GIVE A FINANCIAL REPORT OF WAGES AND EXPENESES YOU LOT HAVE GOT LAST YEAR.
NOT THE LEGAL BULL TREANOR POSTED FROM THE RIGGED AND FIXED
MEETING YE LOT HELD IN WATERFORD.
I DONT KNOW YOU.YOU MUST BE JOKING ,I COULD GO ON FOR HOURS ABOUT YOU
AND YOUR DISGRACEFUL ORGANIZATIONAL RIGHT OF PLACE
ALL YE LEECHES HAVE DONE IS PLUNDERED AND CHEATED SURVIVORS
TO FEATHER YERE OWN NEST
From the very begining the church HIERARCHY ,the government dept's, planned the whole thing to keep the Abuse under raps by setting up so called services for survivors to make themselves look careing to the general irish people ,when in fact all they have done is cause so much damage and further trauma , PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IS THE JUSTICE IN THAT.
THE GOVERNMENT NEVER INTENDED FOR US TO BE HEARD ,NOR GET REAL JUSTICE ,the DEPT of Education are up to their eyeballs IN THE COVERUP, The Religious Orders Must not hand over any more money to the Government BUT FIND SURVIVORS THEMSELVES they know the names of all survivors and pay the compansation directly to the Survivor.It was alright to Distroy childrens lives then just ignore them.
I'm sure he does