The Shame of Ireland

The Shame of Ireland

As you can see below they are starting to debate issues Close to Our heart!
The link below is form this week in the Dail.

If you live in the Republic then you should write, email, Telephone or Meet You "Elected Representative"?

Below is an email sent to Kathleen Lynch; she was speaking up for the Magdalene's!!


From: Robert Northall []
Sent: 18 October 2010 18:09
To: ''
Subject: Your Support?


Dear Kathleen,


I have today read your contribution to the Dáil debate; Thursday, 7 October 2010 via
I can only commend you for your support of the “Maggies”! They have a worthy and just cause!


The Consultation Mary Coughlan Refers to is with Government Paid Representatives of Survivors Right of Place "Et All" I understand that Noel Barry is no longer in residence however the Per Capita Funding that they Use as their mandate is still in Place?


This I believe is part of the Moral Bankruptcy of the Government; I hope that you don’t think that I am making Light but the Magdalene’s are in quite a strong position The R.IR.B. Act took advantage of the situation at the time and paid lip service to Compensation, Michael Woods assured his place in Heaven by protecting the Catholic Churches Breach of Contact over the care of Children! (Had the Irish Government sued on this alone and had ALL the Monies Refunded
there might have been a better Deal for Survivors of the Industrial School System?).


It is a matter of time before they will have to admit culpability!


The depravation of the Human Rights of the Maggies in the European Court of Human Rights would be an excellent Publicity Vehicle? And may bring additional pressure to bear?


The only reason that they started investigating the Industrial Schools is because they wanted to join Europe! Other than this
who knows; the institutions may still be running??



The Survivors of the Industrial Schools have 2 problems



  1. They have been dealt with! And signed an agreement to that end!!!
  2. They have been Represented by Right Of Place “ET ALL” So their voice was ignored for years!

These People hold lists that I cannot access; we are under 50 in membership at the moment but growing slowly?

All the Support organisations are “Jealously Guarding” their Government Cash, WE are divided by what unites US! The Government have used their funding Wisely!!


God Bless the Struggle of the Maggies!


I hope that will not make the same mistakes that have befallen the Survivors of the Industrial Schools?


It leaves such a bitter taste!


The Shame of Ireland is currently under development; we are testing “Live Voting” The first “Live Vote” is


I Agree with Adding the Survivors of the Magdalene Laundries to the Shame Of Ireland Objectives?


When I first started on YahooGroups they were not included, when I moved to Facebook I added them; now we have our own site I need the Members to vote to accept the change and to ”VOTE”  adopt the Aims and Objective I have foisted uponthem!


Democracy is hard work, But we will get there!


I gave Fergus O’Dowd the opportunity to embarrass Brian Cowen and Mary Coughlan over unanswered correspondence from Survivors; As far as I am aware he has not taken this opportunity?


If you feel that you would like to step where “Angels Fear to Tread” I can forward you Correspondence that will show them for what they are; it also shows so called “Survivors Groups” in their true light!


If you would like to know anymore about the “Shame of Ireland” or embarrass Brian Cowen (not that he needs any help)?


Please let me know?


Yours Sincerely


Rob Northall

Founder of the “Shame of Ireland”

I do not represent anyone as we can not vote on “Spokes people” until we have a core membership worthy of not (i.e. 100).


When we do we will have what no other group can deliver “Representation Without Leadership”!

I appologise for the abreviation of the Magdalenes as I now understand it is Offensive? but felt that to edit something that had already been sent would lack "Transparency"!

Kathleen Lynch is the Labour TD for Cork, if you are a constituent of hers feel free to contact her in regards to this email (she has sent a read reciept with regard to this).

If you Do write feel free to sign as a Member of the Shame of Ireland, but as I did please state that you do not Represent any one!

In future I will be signing Corespondence in this manner (but will drop the "Founder" Part; it sounds a bit to Egotistical for my liking!

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Replies to This Discussion

I have had a few Replies to the above Email I shall post them here as they come in.


From: Eric Byrne []
Sent: 16 November 2011 15:17
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Mr Northall,

I have passed on your correspondence to the Minister for Direct Reply.

Best Wishes,

Eric Byrne, T.D.
Dublin South Central

From: Stephen Donnelly []
Sent: 16 November 2011 15:32
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Rob,

Thank you for your email on the Statutory Trust Fund and the Minister ignoring your correspondence. I will bring it to Deputy Donnelly's attention.

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Laura Sherar

on behalf of
Stephen Donnelly TD


From: Terence Flanagan []
Sent: 16 November 2011 15:50
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Mr Northall,

Thank you for your email.

Terence will submit a parliamentary question regarding this issue to the Minister for Education and Skills.

Perhaps you could provide us with a postal address for correspondence purposes.

Kind regards,

Deirdre Byrne

Parliamentary Assistant

On Behalf Of:

Terence Flanagan

Terence Flanagan T.D.


From: Eamon Gilmore []
Sent: 16 November 2011 15:55
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Mr Northall

Thank you very much for your email which will be brought to the attention of the Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade Eamon Gilmore TD as soon as possible.

In the meantime it has also been forwarded to the Minister for Education & Skills Ruairi Quinn TD for response.

Yours sincerely

Doreen Foley PA to
Eamon Gilmore TD
Tanaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade
Labour Party Leader

Please reply to Eamon.Gilmore

From: Alan Shatter []
Sent: 16 November 2011 16:09
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Thank you for your e-mail. All messages are given careful consideration and, where appropriate, we will reply. It would be very helpful if you would reply to this message giving your postal address and contact number.

The reason that we ask for your postal address is straight forward.

If you are a constituent of the Minister - that is to say you live in the constituency of Dublin South - the Ministers own constituency staff must deal with your email. However if you are not from the Minister's constituency the Department of Justice and Equality will work with the Minister on a reply.

Thank you


From: Terence Flanagan []
Sent: 16 November 2011 16:21
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Mr Northall,

Terence has submitted a parliamentary question on your behalf to the Minister for Education and Skills, regarding the matter which you raised with him.

As soon as Terence is in receipt of a response he will be in contact you.

Kind regards,

Deirdre Byrne

Parliamentary Assistant

On Behalf Of:

Terence Flanagan

Terence Flanagan T.D.


From: Mary Lou McDonald []
Sent: 16 November 2011 17:08
To: Rob. Northall
Cc:; Sean Crowe
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Hi Rob,

Many thanks for your mail.

We first raised a myriad of concerns regarding the proposed Statutory Trust Fund with  Minister Quinn in advance of the Dáil summer recess, most of which were not addressed. Sinn Féin Education Spokesperson Sean Crowe TD and my office have met and spoken with a number of organisations and individuals with share your view regarding the Fund. Again this matters have been raised directly with the Minister by Deputy Crowe.

As you are aware the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund legislation is due to be published and this Bill will be dealt with directly by the Deputy with support of course from the rest of Sinn Féin's TDs.

Whilst I cannot compel the Department of Education or indeed the Minister to respond appropriately to your concerns and requests I can assure you that Sinn Féin  are actively pursuing our shared concerns with regards to the Fund, we are raising the matters with the Minister and when the legislation is finally published we will take a position at that point. However our priority, like yours, is to ensure that all survivors are guaranteed adequate supports from the State. The Bill as presented does not meet this objective.

I've Cc Deputy Crowe on this mail as he will be dealing directly with the legislation when it is finally published.

I hear your frustration and I cannot even begin to fully understand the depth of the upset and hurt your feel. It is a scandal that survivors and the groups representing them continue to be thwarted in their efforts to seek justice from the State.

With thanks and best wishes.

Mary Lou McDonald TD
Sinn Féin Deputy Leader
Spokesperson for Public Expenditure and Reform

Leinster House
Kildare Street
Dublin 2

Tel: +353 1 6183230

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From: Bren Ryan []
Sent: 16 November 2011 18:06
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Rob and Albert,

I have forwarded your email plus attachments onto Minister Quinn for his attention and I will mention this matter to him when I see him next expressing upon him a need to deal adequately with your issues.

Deputy Brendan Ryan

(01) 6183421


From: John Perry []
Sent: 17 November 2011 10:38
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Rob,

Many thanks for your email and attached correspondence. I have now made representations to An Taoiseach and to Minister Quinn in relation to your concerns and have asked them to respond directly to you in this regard. You might forward me your postal address please.

Best regards,

John Perry TD
Minister for Small Business.

From: Pauline Scott [] On Behalf Of Paul J Connaughton
Sent: 17 November 2011 14:35
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: FW: RE Unanswered Correspondence


Dear Rob
Thank you for your email. I will endeavour to get answers as to why you have not received the necessary replies in relation to your emails.
Paul Connaughton T.D.



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