The Shame of Ireland

The Shame of Ireland


As you can see below they are starting to debate issues Close to Our heart!
The link below is form this week in the Dail.

http://bit.ly/93Hg13

If you live in the Republic then you should write, email, Telephone or Meet You "Elected Representative"?

Below is an email sent to Kathleen Lynch; she was speaking up for the Magdalene's!!


 

From: Robert Northall [mailto:rob.northall@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 18:09
To: 'kathleen.lynch@oireachtas.ie'
Subject: Your Support?

 

Dear Kathleen,

 

I have today read your contribution to the Dáil debate; Thursday, 7 October 2010 via http://www.kildarestreet.com/debate/?id=2010-10-07.155.0&c=297#c297
I can only commend you for your support of the “Maggies”! They have a worthy and just cause!

 

The Consultation Mary Coughlan Refers to is with Government Paid Representatives of Survivors Right of Place "Et All" I understand that Noel Barry is no longer in residence however the Per Capita Funding that they Use as their mandate is still in Place?

 

This I believe is part of the Moral Bankruptcy of the Government; I hope that you don’t think that I am making Light but the Magdalene’s are in quite a strong position The R.IR.B. Act took advantage of the situation at the time and paid lip service to Compensation, Michael Woods assured his place in Heaven by protecting the Catholic Churches Breach of Contact over the care of Children! (Had the Irish Government sued on this alone and had ALL the Monies Refunded
there might have been a better Deal for Survivors of the Industrial School System?).

 

It is a matter of time before they will have to admit culpability!

 

The depravation of the Human Rights of the Maggies in the European Court of Human Rights would be an excellent Publicity Vehicle? And may bring additional pressure to bear?

 

The only reason that they started investigating the Industrial Schools is because they wanted to join Europe! Other than this
who knows; the institutions may still be running??

 

 

The Survivors of the Industrial Schools have 2 problems

 

 

  1. They have been dealt with! And signed an agreement to that end!!!
  2. They have been Represented by Right Of Place “ET ALL” So their voice was ignored for years!

These People hold lists that I cannot access; we are under 50 in membership at the moment but growing slowly?

All the Support organisations are “Jealously Guarding” their Government Cash, WE are divided by what unites US! The Government have used their funding Wisely!!

 

God Bless the Struggle of the Maggies!

 

I hope that will not make the same mistakes that have befallen the Survivors of the Industrial Schools?

 

It leaves such a bitter taste!

 

The Shame of Ireland is currently under development; we are testing “Live Voting” The first “Live Vote” is

 

I Agree with Adding the Survivors of the Magdalene Laundries to the Shame Of Ireland Objectives?

 

When I first started on YahooGroups they were not included, when I moved to Facebook I added them; now we have our own site I need the Members to vote to accept the change and to ”VOTE”  adopt the Aims and Objective I have foisted uponthem!

 

Democracy is hard work, But we will get there!

 

I gave Fergus O’Dowd the opportunity to embarrass Brian Cowen and Mary Coughlan over unanswered correspondence from Survivors; As far as I am aware he has not taken this opportunity?

 

If you feel that you would like to step where “Angels Fear to Tread” I can forward you Correspondence that will show them for what they are; it also shows so called “Survivors Groups” in their true light!

 

If you would like to know anymore about the “Shame of Ireland” or embarrass Brian Cowen (not that he needs any help)?

 

Please let me know?

 

Yours Sincerely

 

Rob Northall

Founder of the “Shame of Ireland”

I do not represent anyone as we can not vote on “Spokes people” until we have a core membership worthy of not (i.e. 100).

 

When we do we will have what no other group can deliver “Representation Without Leadership”!


I appologise for the abreviation of the Magdalenes as I now understand it is Offensive? but felt that to edit something that had already been sent would lack "Transparency"!

Kathleen Lynch is the Labour TD for Cork, if you are a constituent of hers feel free to contact her in regards to this email (she has sent a read reciept with regard to this).

If you Do write feel free to sign as a Member of the Shame of Ireland, but as I did please state that you do not Represent any one!

In future I will be signing Corespondence in this manner (but will drop the "Founder" Part; it sounds a bit to Egotistical for my liking!

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Replies to This Discussion

From: Maureen OSullivan [mailto:Maureen.OSullivan@Oireachtas.ie]
Sent: 15 July 2012 08:08 PM
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: Only you can Prevent Future Trauma and Distress, and Put things Right?

I will be voting against it because the residents who have been in touch are not in favour and, in my opinion, it is their views that are paramount.
However, the government parties have very large majorities so more than likely it will pass. However, I will be following how much of the money goes on bureaucracy and needless expenses.
Maureen

Maureen O'Sullivan T.D.
Independent Dublin Central
Office: 6183488
www.maureenosullivan.ie
www.facebook.com/maureenosullivantd
Twitter @MaureenOSTD

Thank You Maureen for your Support!

1999 Bertie Ahern “apologised unreservedly” to Survivors of Industrial Schools. 2008 opened Christian Brothers International Heritage Centre.

Michael Woods did his Country a Disservice with the Unconstitutional Indemnity Deal; Indemnifying (Endowing a Special Status by virtue of their Religion) the Perpetrators of Abuse.

Those that Vote to Inflict Future Abuse on the Survivors of the Magdalene Laundries and Bethany Homes will go down in history as the Shame Of Ireland?

ThanX again!

Take Care

Rob

PS I wish I could get this message to the President of Ireland as this will take Place “On His Watch”.

He will be know in History for this?

From: OCaolain [mailto:caoimhghin.ocaolain@oireachtas.ie]
Sent: 16 July 2012 03:54 PM
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: Only you can Prevent Future Trauma and Distress, and Put things Right?

 

Rob, a chara,

Many thanks for your email. The Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Bill 2012 is being dealt with by Sinn Féin spokesperson on Education, Seán Crowe. As spokesperson, Deputy Crowe has submitted 8 amendments in total that would establish separate Redress Boards for the survivors of the Magdalene Laundries and Bethany Home; extend educational supports for the children and grandchildren of survivors; provide assistance for survivors living outside the State wishing to return to Ireland to set-up home; provision to be made for a one off payment to survivors and a 6 month deadline from when the Fund is established for the Religious Orders to pay the outstanding money they owe to the fund and a 10% penalty to be levied on Religious Orders on the amount owed should they fail to meet this deadline.

We will pressing our amendment that seeks to change the eligibility criteria of those applying for an award from the Fund.

We will be voting no to the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Bill at the end of Report and Final Stages if the above amendments are not accepted by the Government.

I trust this information is of assistance.

With best wishes.

Is mise,

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin T.D.
Spokesperson on Health & Children

From: Gavin Gallagher [mailto:Gavin.Gallagher@Oireachtas.ie] On Behalf Of Sean Crowe
Sent: 17 July 2012 03:59 PM
To: Rob. Northall
Subject: Re: Only you can Prevent Future Trauma and Distress, and Put things Right?

 

Sinn Féin position on the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Bill, 2012

Rob, a chara,

Sinn Féin is opposing the Bill for a number of reasons but primarily because the eligibility for those who can access the Fund will be confined to survivors who received an award from the Redress Board or an award following a court decision or settlement and who would otherwise have received an award from the Redress Board.

We have also submitted eight amendments in total that seek to establish separate Redress Boards for the survivors of the Magdalene Laundries and Bethany Home; extend educational supports for the children and grandchildren of survivors; provide assistance for survivors living outside the State wishing to return to Ireland to set-up home; provision to be made for a one off payment to survivors and a 6 month deadline from when the Fund is established for the Religious Orders to pay the outstanding money they owe to the fund and a 10% penalty to be levied on Religious Orders on the amount owed should they fail to meet this deadline.

We will be voting no to the Bill when it comes before the Oireachtas for Report and Final Stage on the 17th of July, 2012. I hope this clarifies matters.

Is mise le meas,

Seán Crowe
Sinn Féin Education Spokesperson

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