The Shame of Ireland

The Shame of Ireland

Business is "Business" and Personal is "Personal"

It would be long before I was born that my Grandfather sat in a Pub in the Rhondda Valleys trying to have a quiet pint after a long hard shift at the Coal Face, for he like most of the working men of his village was a Collier.


The Pub was full of the hum of conversation about the long day underground, when my Grandfather said in his deep gruff voice “There’s lots of Coal being dug tonight Lads”


The Pub fell into an uneasy silence for one or two minutes and then the conversations started up, but not another word about work!


Where am I going with this?


Well Read on?


I have always said “This is your website!” Which it is!


I have always said “I would not moderate it”. Which I haven’t!


In all the time that the website has been here; only once have I ever sanctioned a member for bullying.


This was when a Member picked on another Member for being employed by “Right of Place”.


Which is where I am leading – “Business is Business and Personal is Personal”


Historically Members have had a go at Michael Walsh the Chairman of “Right of Place” these have always sailed close to the mark?

As Chair person of “Right of Place” you may disagree with what the organisation does or doesn’t do; and he may be addressed in this. Surely “Feedback” can only improve things?


Similarly any other Person who has a position within Government or an Organisation can be challenged about their role or their policies but please don’t attack the Person?


If you are feeling emotional when you start to post, please reread what you have written and think before you hit SEND!


Think of the impact on others?


I am not trying to water down the Website, but want it to remain a place where ALL feel comfortable?


I am not without my Critics


This was copied from a website by Screen capture

As you can see I am not without my Critics??

the original can be viewed  <HERE>



Why now?


Paddy Doyle!

Paddy ran a website that Survivor have relied on for years, not One not 2 but Twelve or more!

Paddy never promised anything, not as far as I can remember?

He applied to be on the Board of the Statutory Trust Fund and was accepted.

It is here in-spite of my best efforts. We Fought and We Lost!


Many of you may feel let down by him, and this has been expressed on “Social Media”; but I really do not feel this is the Place for “Name Calling”.


Recently his “Personal Life” was brought into Question on this website; and that is what it is “Personal”


Where as I am happy to leave all  the posts that have been posted to date stand!


PLEASE: By all means “Dig Coal!”

For this is the only place we have to air our Grievances in Private!

This is where we can Support each other!


BUT PLEASE Let’s Keep Business “Business” and Personal “Personal” i.e. Separate!


As usual I welcome your Thoughts and Comments


Thank You for taking the time to read this!


Take Care



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Comment by Úna Walsh on October 16, 2013 at 20:57

Sounds Fair to me. People must work for a living, even in places they would critisize for ethical lapses. Nor are little cogs responsible for employers lack of integrity.

Comment by jack colleton on October 16, 2013 at 20:59

as for criticism against this site i see on the other site page that  " Comments are closed."

Comment by Claire Rose on October 16, 2013 at 21:13
Hi Rob. I agree with what you are saying however, Mr Doyle used his position ie. advocate for abuse victims and people with disabilities, to gain trust. I contacted him to tell him he is/was an inspiration only for him to bombard me with DM. Apparently we 'clicked' (his word) and became best friends and more.
I was then seduced by him, no problem there, we are adults. Things didn't work out and you may think I'm bitter however that is not true. I was broken hearted, yes absolutely, I was led to believe we were soul mates so who wouldn't.
However, during the summer months I was contacted by several other ladies who were also in r'ships with him. At the same time as me!! So he's a cheat, no big deal.
But it is a big deal, vulnerable women like myself, a survivor, have had our lives torn apart by his behaviour and I believe your forum has provided me with an outlet to warn others. This is vital, to protecting others and there is a moral onus on me to make people aware. I would also take the opportunity to plead with Mr. Doyle to make a public and sincere apology to those he has damaged.
Yours sincerely
Comment by Rob Northall on October 17, 2013 at 11:30

Hi Jack, the Criticism of me is an illustration. It has no bearing on me. I would love to know what the person who posted it thought they would achieve. But I think that is for another blog?

Comment by jack colleton on October 17, 2013 at 11:45

they gave no substance to their criticism.

Comment by jack colleton on October 17, 2013 at 11:46

i would join the conservative party if i thought that would help!

Comment by jack colleton on October 17, 2013 at 12:40

is the london irish center in camden a group?

Comment by Rob Northall on October 17, 2013 at 12:46

Hi Jack they purport to assist Survivors and they are discussed in the forum on groups at

Comment by james moy on October 17, 2013 at 15:52

Heard there is another new group about to kick off, joint venture between Michael Walsh and Paddy Doyle, to be called " THE COD SQUAD "


Comment by Gaye Dalton on October 17, 2013 at 21:23

Hi Rob, and Claire,

Just wanted to chip in briefly. I agree that business is business and personal is personal in the usual way, but, as a woman who is a survivor of abuse, and emotionally vulnerable, I feel that I have a right to some kind of warning about anyone who is in the habit of abusing a position of perceived trust to this extent...before I get sucked in.

I also cannot help remarking that, from the sheer numbers involved, I am not sure the term "private" was ever entirely applicable. The degree of abused trust, pressure and deceit has been such that I am not sure it can be filed under "mistakes made by consenting adults" either.

I feel VERY sorry for his wife who has done absolutely nothing, and, for her sake, would have preferred his name could have been withheld, but in that event, where does it end? 

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