Holocaust Count to Exclude Industrial Schools

[Rob Northall]

For those of you who have been following the Horrific Exposure of the 796 Dead Babies in Tuam

This News Story may be of Interest?

Mother-and-baby inquiry 'should cover other institutions'

Government urged to uphold UN Human Rights principles and rulings of European Court

Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan: announced establishment of Commission of Investigation into mother and baby homes last week. File Photograph: Alan Betson/The Irish Times

Patsy McGarry

First published: Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 19:20

Magdalene laundries and County Homes should be included in terms of reference for the Commission of Investigation into mother and baby homes , four advocacy groups have said.

In a joint statement tonight, the groups also called for the investigation, announced last week by Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan, to be carried out by an independent commission, including at least one international expert.

In a statement, Justice for Magdalenes Research (JFMR), Adoption Rights Alliance (ARA), Bethany Survivors Group and the National Women’s Council of Ireland (NWCI), called on on the Government “to meet international best practice requirements” in the proposed Commission of Investigation by including the Magdalene laundries and county homes.

Katherine O’Donnell of JFMR said the inclusion of the Magdalene laundries was “absolutely essential to ensuring that the truth of what happened in all of these institutions is brought to light”.

Boston College Prof James Smith, also of JFMR, said the terms of reference of the McAleese committee, which investigated the Magdalene laundries, did not allow it to investigate individual complaints of abuse or examine fully the religious orders’ financial records.

ARA spokeswoman Susan Lohan said it was imperative, given the international dimension to forced adoptions, that there is an international expert in the field involved with the investigation.

Niall Meehan of the Bethany group it was vital that “transparency, accountability and a commitment to ensuring that the experiences and testimonies of survivors, their next of kin and representative groups are placed at the heart of the investigation”.

Rachel Doyle of NWCI said there must be no attempt to minimise physical or psychological abuse. “Survivor testimonies must be the most important resource in the inquiry,” she said.

JFMR’s Maeve O’Rourke said the four groups’ demands were informed by rulings of the European Court of Human Rights and principles established by UN High Commissioner for Human Rights regarding Effective Investigation and Documentation of Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

“We are calling on the Irish Government to uphold these principles in carrying out this investigation to ensure that truth and justice prevail in the interests of survivors, their families and of Irish society,” she said.

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[theresa wardley]

They most certainly be included

[William Delahunty]

An investigation without evidence of the industrial schools it prouve that the irish government are not willing to admit its involvement in the biggest irish crime of the twentieth century To go back to the babies in question all of them had they lived were destined for the industrial schools. The hole saga is intertwined. The government were very slow of the mark on this only when a bishop called for an enquiry did they join in the call for an enquiry its quite fair to say the country is still being run by the Catholic Church brainwashing in childhood is still playing its part

[Catherine Roberts]

Industrial schools should definitely be included.

[theresa wardley]

certainly agree on that Catherine, my dad was incarcerated for 8 years for no fault of his own.

We have just found out that we cannot claim for his time in there as the closing date was 2011.

We were not informed of this or heard about the date.

[jack colleton]

so much of what happened feels like deliberate and we were prisoners. 

[jack colleton]

the state might well think why should prisoners be compensated?