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13% of redress scheme cost paid so far - C&AG report

The State originally gave the religious congregations an indemnity in 2002, limiting their contribution The State originally gave the religious congregations an indemnity in 2002, limiting their contribution

The Catholic religious congregations who ran residential institutions where children were abused have paid just 13% of the costs of a redress scheme set up to help survivors, according to a report by the Comptroller and Auditor General published by the Department of Education.

The report states that by the end of 2015 the total costs of the commission which inquired into the child abuse, and the Redress Scheme, were an estimated €1.5bn.

Minister for Education Richard Bruton has expressed disappointment with the contribution from the religious orders and said progress has actually gone into reverse.

To date the 18 religious congregations have offered the equivalent of about 23% of the overall cost. However, just 13% of the overall cost has actually been handed over.

The State gave the religious congregations an indemnity in 2002, limiting their contribution to €128m.

After the Ryan report was published the religious congregations agreed to pay more, offering cash and property valued at €353m. Much of the property consisted of playing fields attached to schools.

This offer was reduced to €226m in September of 2015.

However, the C&AG finds that only €85m of that €226m has been received by the State.

The report also criticises the level of legal fees paid and says lessons need to be learned about the introduction of similar compensation schemes in the future.

Christian Brothers say 'on course' with commitments 

In response this evening, the Christian Brothers said it is "on course to honour in full the voluntary pledges" made in 2009 to redress for survivors of child abuse and to their education and welfare.

Brother Edmund Garvey, the congregation's Irish Provincial, said the C&AG Report published today predates what he called "significant payments" by the Congregation.

"Of the €34m cash pledge, €24m has been honoured with the final €10m being paid on a phased basis in 2017 linked to property sales.

"Plans are also at an advanced stage for the transfer of playing fields worth well over €100m to the ERST (Edmund Rice Schools Trust), for the benefit of its 37,000 students and ultimately the State of which they are part," he said.

"It had been hoped to make this transfer to a joint Trust between the State and ERST, but this proposal was not accepted."

He continued: "These measures, together with prior transfers by the Christian Brothers, will bring total contributions to redress, welfare and education to over €600m."

In a statement, the Sisters of Mercy said that it has honoured all of its commitments in relation to the redress scheme. 

It said that following the publication of the Ryan Report in 2009, it committed to making a payment valued at €127,506,800.

It said that the payments composed contributions to "Cara Nua, the independent trust for former residents: the sum of €20,000,000 cash plus properties then worth €11,590,000.

"To the State: properties then worth €80,856,800. To the voluntary sector: properties then worth €15,060,000." 

It said that due to the financial downturn, the State did receive reduced financial gains through the property transfers. The Sisters of Mercy said that it "always made clear that the value of its contribution was subject to the fluctuations in value attaching to individual properties." 

A spokesperson for the Dominican Order has meanwhile said that it paid what the State asked of it towards the cost of the redress scheme and that it paid it on time.

The Daughters of Charity of Saint Vincent de Paul say they have honoured virtually all of the commitments they made to the State in regard to redress.

In a statement, the Irish Province of the congregation says it is finalising the sale of property and when that is complete it will transfer the proceeds to the State so as to honour its entire commitment.

A spokesman for the Saint John of God Order said that it "made a commitment to the Redress Board and has since fully discharged its obligation."

The De La Salle Brothers have also said the figures show that the congregation has contributed what it had offered the State in respect of the cost of the scheme.

In a statement, the Oblates of Mary Immaculate said that it honoured in full its "commitments to make a voluntary cash contribution towards Redress". It managed St Conleth's Reformatory in Daingean, Co Offaly until 1971.

Following the publication of the Ryan Report, it committed to making a payment of €20m which was paid on a phased basis. It said that the final amounts were paid in 2013. 

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Comment by Elizabeth Nicholas on March 20, 2017 at 14:53

Hello all,   does anyone on this site know about the Irish Times having a discussion about caranua and the awful woman who is in charge.  have just been told by a friend (no name)  and was asked to let this site know.  Cant see anything on the times website,  just wondering if anyone in Ireland might be able to she some light on the discussion.  Would love to know what was said.    Has any one had any dealings with Mr Bruton  he is a minister for skills and something else.  I have sent an email to his office in Dublin informing him of the horrid treatment I received from caranua and being shunted back and forth to the appeals office.   No reply from the Dublin office except to say they received my email and will be looking into things.  Do I hold my breath or keep badgering.

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Comment by Elizabeth Nicholas on March 23, 2017 at 13:54

Hello all, did any one listen to the Joe  what's his name radio show the other day.  I listened on our laptop but missed some of the talk.  The ladies who rang in were more than dissatisfied with caranua and the treatment they received from them.  Why is that woman (the ceo) still allowed to run such an instatution .  She has no compassion and her wording on the RTE show towards survivors was just awful. We suffered as children what right has she to treat us so badly.   If you did manage to listen to the Radio Show please post your comments  and let us know your thoughts.   caranua has to be shut down and professionals maybe take    

Comment by jack colleton on March 23, 2017 at 14:20


More survivors of residential institutions tell us about their experiences of dealing with Caranua.

Comment by jack colleton on March 23, 2017 at 14:22


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