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The Government said it had sought a contribution from the Catholic religious congregations of approximately €725m The Government said it had sought a contribution from the Catholic religious congregations of approximately €725m

Survivors of institutional child abuse in industrial schools received around €6m worth of services over the second half of last year from the statutory body overseeing the distribution of funds pledged by the 18 religious congregations which ran the institutions and a reformatory.

The figure has emerged following an announcement by Minister for Education Richard Bruton of a three-week public consultation about the terms of reference of a review of eligibility for assistance from Caranua.

The independent State body helps to address the health, housing and education needs of survivors living in Ireland and in other parts of the world.

The last coalition government promised that the review of Caranua's eligibility rules would begin 12 months ago, two years after the statutory body began accepting abuse survivors' applications for help with health, social, educational and housing needs.  

Last night, the department said that, up to the end of last year, the body had spent €56m in supporting almost 4,200 former residents.

But official figures indicate three times that number may be eligible to apply, having received cash redress from the State averaging around €62,000. 

Over the past six months, Caranua's monthly average rate of spending on survivors has dropped from €2.3m to €1m. 

The department stated that, when interest is taken into account, the congregations which ran the institutions had contributed around €96m to date and that the State expects to receive the full €110m due by next year.

Last September the Government said it had sought a contribution from the Catholic religious congregations of approximately €725m - or half the cost of the State's total redress bill - but that the religious had offered €480m.

"Successive governments have adopted the position that the costs of the response to residential institutional abuse should be shared on a 50:50 basis between the State and those who managed the institutions," the department said.

The statement continued that the position had "broad support across Dáil Éireann and it has been argued that there is a strong moral obligation on those involved, to deliver on their responsibilities ... Apart from one congregation that believes its contribution represents its 50% share, the remaining congregations have either declined to comment on the appropriateness of, or disagree with the 50:50 principle".


Source - http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0216/853009-child-abuse/

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Comment by Rob Northall on April 17, 2017 at 20:14

This disturbs me Greatly

"The department stated that, when interest is taken into account, the congregations which ran the institutions had contributed around €96m to date and that the State expects to receive the full €110m due by next year."

Does this mean the contribution is to include the Interest earned by the sum given???

so is it  €96m + interest = €110m

Comment by micheal on April 17, 2017 at 20:29
The church will scam blag evade anyway it can so given they have been sneaking money back under the pretext of free counseling, and just as I think of it break this down, how long would it take a person to get through 80 counseling sessions against the date of first payment to towards healing by caranua and is there really so many exceeding those 80 sessions that the fee is running to 100s of Ks something stinks with that whole memo of understanding ( on how to fleece survivor's) and why needed at all, in towards healings reports many meetings took place between caranua and towards healing for what purpose?.
Comment by micheal on April 17, 2017 at 20:32
And yes Rob it reads to me that the interest is part of the figure when in fact legally it should be on top of the figure.
Comment by jack colleton on April 17, 2017 at 21:52

"Last night, the department said that, up to the end of last year, the body had spent €56m in supporting almost 4,200 former residents."

Comment by jack colleton on April 17, 2017 at 22:04

What You Both Say  (Rob And Michael) Sounds Right .... Mind Due To Being Repeatedly Being Assaulted In 'Care' I Need My Fingers And Thumbs Just To Count!

Comment by micheal on April 18, 2017 at 10:33
Sorry to hear that bud, I genuinely can understand. I have learned stuff here with you guys that has taken me from wish I was dead already, to being able to at least entertain the thought that some kind of mental peace maybe possible so if ya ever just want a chat message me for my number lad.
Comment by Barbie on April 18, 2017 at 10:35

what we as survivors must remember is that not only the religious are grabbing back money through the programmes such as towards healing, in the original guidelines when you applied to Caranua anything that could be done under the medical card or through the dept of education was the state grabbing back the money. The only time money actually change hands was when they had to out source for services and more than likely it was using a service run by someone that the religious, state or the people running Caranua knew and benefited their own self interests and not ours.

Comment by jack colleton on April 18, 2017 at 10:36

Hello Michael: -

We Are The Pieces Of The Puzzle.

Comment by jack colleton on April 18, 2017 at 10:37

That Sounds On The Money Barbie!

Comment by micheal on April 18, 2017 at 10:41
Barbara your bang on the money there, if the fund was genuinely about survivor's needs then common sense would dictate its easy to help someone if that's your intention but it has descended into the standard Irish self serving buddy serving quango where we are the very last consideration.
Jack we sure are pal.

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