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Children's Referendum Debate ~ Afternoon Protest ~ Dáil Éireann 26/09/12

I went along to Dáil Éireann to highlight the on going problem in Ireland with the catholic church, state and government regarding children's rights which ha...

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Comment by jack colleton on September 27, 2012 at 20:56



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Comment by jack colleton on September 27, 2012 at 21:00
John Ayres 27 September 16:33
I went along to Dáil Éireann to highlight the on going problem in Ireland with the catholic church, state and government regarding children's rights which have never been recognised regardless of what legislation was or is in place. The foundation of the 'Republic of Ireland' was based upon the 'Proclamation of 1916' which recognised that 'All Children be Cherished' and 'Treated Equally before the Law'. Seeing out the civil war in 1921 brought us to 1937 for the inauguration of the 'Constitution of Ireland' which the church and state promoted from the pulpits to accept as it was our road to 'Peace and Freedom'. Even during this period of history children were being abducted and kidnapped by church and state, women were being incarcerated and enslaved into the 'Magdalene Laundries' and Mother and Baby Homes. The British Army left the 26 Counties but the British Legal system remained and was used at great expense to the Irish tax payer to maintain this brutal child care system. Children were brought before courts without legal representation and given life sentences into what can only be described as 'Hell Holes'. There can be no doubt there was nothing wrong with the 'Legislation' being used by the state to incarcerate defenceless and vulnerable women and children, they have been using it right up to date, now they want to change it!

Why now? after so many decades of inherent abuse on women and children?
Comment by jack colleton on September 27, 2012 at 21:00

John Ayres


There is no simple way of explaining this, it's a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack for the missing link that places everything together but with out it no one can make sense of it. Over the years 'Legislation' was amended to hide the scale of abuse, as they are doing today. Dáil privilege was used through out as not to be held accountable by what TD's said and what office they held, like the predatory clergy they too were moved around and place in positions of influence to keep the net tightly closed from public scrutiny. The courts were gagged so to speak as they too were guilty of incredible miscarriages of justice regarding the women and children who they gave 'Life Sentences" to.

As for those who were put through the system, they made very slow in roads in trying to bring about restorative justice for the suffering they endured for many a year. Survivors were met with a stone wall, kept silent and had to endure more abuse by the system that abused them in the first place. Though reports were being made into the institutions and the care they provided, the government on one hand implemented the reports and on the other they blocked any progress in exposing the true extent and nature of abuse. The government set up inquires (Kennedy, Ferns, Ryan) to investigate itself and the church joined in on the band wagon and also investigated themselves (Murphy, Cloyne, Raphoe, Limerick, Kildare & Leighlin); so here we have two institutions blaming each other for their own wrong doing while their internal departments also got in on the act blaming each other.

Comment by jack colleton on September 27, 2012 at 21:01

John Ayres

The 'Blame Game' - where no one is held accountable except the women and children who were blamed in the first instance - The 'New Children's Referendum' will not change any thing for children nor will it end the misery what children and families will have to endure at the hands of a corrupted church, state and government. Over 6000 children are in the care of the state at a cost of about €2000 per child per week; you work that out. Over the last decade over 235 children lost their lives while in the care of the 'HSE' and over 500 children are missing with in the HSE care system.

The fundamental unit of our society is the family always was and always will be the fundamental unit. The family unit is the child's haven, a safety of love and warmth for the child to grow. It is not the child that needs to be protected, it is the family unit from which the child belongs. Separating the child from it's natural family is very traumatic for a child and more so when it is being placed in an already unhealthy 'Child Care Industry'. If the family is in trouble then the family should receive all the help that is required to bring about a safe family environment for the child; and yes by all means do take a child into care when it is the last resort after all other avenues have been exhausted.

We are all a society, we can no longer continue in the society that we live today, it is unhealthy in every respect no matter how glamorous the media portrays life to be.
We do not need 'Legislation to be amended' for 'Children's Rights' that were never kept anyway; we need accountability as to what went wrong in the first place and who was responsible for it, you don't pay for a country and not know who done what or why it all happened.

Ireland has been brought down a road under the illusion of peace and freedom and promises of better things to come, but all we do is work harder for the government to run the country for us. The real cost of this so called 'Irish republic' has been our children who suffered in silence when no one would listen to them.


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