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Tuesday, 28th June, 2016. Reference Number: 18253/16 & Reference Number: 17912/16

Hi Rob,

please see below latest replies.  Clare raised it yesterday with Richard Bruton, we will put it up on the website later today.

All the best
Rhona


Uimhir:132

Ceist Pharlaiminte

Chun an Aire Oideachais agus Eolaíoctha
To the Minister for Education and Science

To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if Caranua has informed him of the
introduction of financial limits to eligible applicants; and if he will make a
statement on the matter.
- Clare Daly.



* For WRITTEN answer on Tuesday, 28th June, 2016.
Reference Number: 18253/16

Freagra

Minister Richard Bruton

Caranua, the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Board, is an independent
statutory body established pursuant to the Residential Institutions Statutory
Fund Act 2012.   While officials from my Department meet regularly with
officials from Caranua, it is the Board of Caranau, which is representative of
survivors, that would have approved the introducution of financial limits.    
Caranua has, as a you know, a limited fund available to it and the introduction
of financial limits was necessary to ensure that the number of survivors
benefiting from the fund could be maximised.



Uimhir:6

Ceist Pharlaiminte

Chun an Aire Oideachais agus Eolaíoctha
To the Minister for Education and Science

To ask the Minister for Education and Skills further to Parliamentary Question
Number 116 of 16 June 2016, why the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Act
2012 requirement, for a review of the Caranua Scheme after two years, has not
been carried out and the expected timeframe for same..
- Clare Daly.



For ORAL answer on Tuesday, 28th June, 2016.
Reference Number: 17912/16

Freagra

Minister Richard Bruton

The Residential Institutions Statutory Fund (RISF) Act was enacted in July 2012
and provided for the establishment of a Statutory Fund to support the needs of
victims of residential institutional abuse.  The Act also provided for the
dissolution of the Education Finance Board which was established in 2006 and
financed by a €12.7m contribution under the terms of the 2002 Indemnity
Agreement.

Eligibility for assistance from the Fund is confined to those former residents
who received awards from the Residential Institutions Redress Board or similar
awards or settlements in court proceedings and who would otherwise have
received an award from the Redress Board. Approximately 15,000 survivors are
eligible.  The Board adopted the service name Caranua in October 2013 and began
accepting applications on 6th January 2014. The initial uptake on applications
was small and in the first year payments amounting to €14.77m had been made to
or on behalf of 1,476 applicants.  During the past year expenditure has
increased significantly to €43m to or on behalf of 2,927 applicants.

In response to calls for the eligibility for access to the fund to be widened
during the passage of the legislation through the Houses of the Oireachtas, an
undertaking was given to review the operation of the Fund two years after its
establishment.  I remain committed to reviewing the scheme.  Initial engagement
between Caranua and my Department on developing terms of reference will take
place in July with a view to the review commencing in the autumn.

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Hi Rob, its more of the same the new minister is spouting the same crap as the ones before him, they are all enabling Caranua and Co to defraud the very people it was set up for "The Survivors" Shame on  Minister Bruton

"Caranua, the Residential Institutions Statutory Fund Board, is an independent statutory body established pursuant to the Residential Institutions Statutory  Fund Act 2012. "

"independent"  How So?   Independent Of Who Or What Exactly?

" it is the Board of Caranau, which is representative of survivors"  : -

How So?   Representative  Of Survivors How Exactly?

"representative of survivors, that would have approved the introducution of financial limits"

Excellent points Jack

Didnt see the board capping wages and expenses know where there loyalties lie 

Keeping It Going Even If Means Less For Whom For.

There's More on this Dail Debate Click the Link Bellow

“Tuesday, 28 June 2016 Dáil debate on Caranua Continued”

Well Worth A Listen And Watch!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rob Northall <rob.northall@xxxxxxxx>
Date: 8 July 2016 at 11:44
Subject: Re: Caranua PQ replies
To: Clare Daly <Clare.Daly@oireachtas.ie>


Hi Rhona,

Thank Clare for being the only TD to Care about Industrial School Survivors.

Will She ask the minister to Suspend Caranua an hold a full Inquiry into tits Operation before the Public Accounts Committee.


Below is an Extract from a Blog I published Yesterday

I know of at least 4 Members of the Website that have been refused help by Caranau!

I started Reading the Comments and found this!

See the comment from Michelle Ní Dhubhlaíocht on @thejournal_ie:Some abuse survivors say Caranua redress scheme isn&#8217;t working, but it&#8217;s paid out €5m so far  http://c.jrnl.ie/3110119

A copy of which is bellow

Then I remembered this

My early suspicions of Caranua stirred up all kinds of emotions and debate, especially of being a regional ‘chairman’ of a very prominent ‘survivor group’ as well as other positions held. An awful lot of questions needed answering, but I needn’t have worried.

Once I decided to fill in application forms, within a short space of time, I was allocated an Advisor a ‘Mr Patrick Cleary’. Words cannot express my admiration enough for this gentleman’s courtesy, exceptional professional skills, and his unique way for feeling at ease, whilst conversing on the phone. I’ve had the honour of personally meeting Patrick last year, as well as other staff members.

As a suspicious survivor, I can't praise and thank enough all the staff at Caranua for their patience and professionalism, especially my Advisor Patrick Cleary for much appreciated advice and ongoing support, and I’d just like to encourage survivors of institutional abuse who are hesitating in contacting Caranua just to let you know of my personal experience. Have no fear, we are very fortunate to have such a dedicated staff working on our behalf, so contact them as soon as possible, they are awaiting your call to assist you - all of my suspicions have been allayed.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank my Advisor ‘Mr Patrick Cleary’ and all staff at Caranua the best of luck going forward, for the benefit of survivors. Also special acknowledgement to Mary Higgins, whom I had the honour of meeting when she attended one of our meetings, and got a drilling, but she took it very well.

 

Pat (Cork)

source - http://www.caranua.ie/how_to_apply/%E2%80%9Cas_a_suspicious_survivo...

I followed the link for Michelle Ní Dhubhlaíocht it lead to a Facebook Page, She lives in Waterford.

I asked on Twitter for an English Translation for her Surname which would be "Dooley"

Who is the Michelle and how can she Speak so Authoritatively on Right Of Place?

Why are Members of Right Of Place more important to Caranua than any other Survivor?

AND are Members of this Site Blacklisted?

Please do NOT have a go at this Lady! We are better than That!

The blog appears @ http://theenchantingvalley.ning.com/forum/topics/right-of-place-caranua-and-fast-tracking-applications

I you read the comments At least 2 Members have been ignored by the "Wonderful Patrick"

 

I fear that Right Of Place will endorse Caranua at the Statutory Review!

If they were funded per-capita on their Membership it Was Fraud as They were using the Same Membership Data Base as Oliver Burke of Munster Survivors, and Tom Cronnin

Until this issue if fully investigated they cannot represent Survivors as the Current Chairman knows what they have been doing and so Does their Director because I kid you not he is the Chairman's SON!

See https://www.facebook.com/groups/survivorswhostandtogether/perma...

Screen Shot Attached! Robert will let you in!

The Aisling Centre are also invalid in Representing Survivors as they have never been investigated over the fact that money has been misappropriated.

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Note to the accounts of the AISLINN CENTRE“
What is clear from the accounts is that for two years, and for part of a
third year, money received could only be reported as having being
advanced to directors. It is possible that this money was channeled to
previously existing organizations and used in their work. Otherwise it
is hard to see how the expenditure could have been justified, as the
company had no other staff or premises. Whether a similar situation
existed for the rest of the periods of accounts from 2003 to 2008, it is
not possible to say from the information given in these accounts.”
Nial Mc Gahon, Consultants. A S M HORWATH

Quinn Shatter and Noonan ignored this!


The Accounts are Attached! its about £240,000 from memory

 

I trust that Clare will Act on this Information?

 

If she Needs to speak to me its 0441792######

Thank You and Clare for Your Support!

 

Take Care

Rob Northall

I have just Caranua concerning my application which I sent in almost two years ago I informed the person that two months ago I rang them and was informed that Patrick was to contact me within a couple of days I asked her why he did not contact me I got no reply It would appear to me this fund is picking and choosein whom they are willing to help and what they are willing to help with also what group you come from. It is time this fund was closed down survivors cannot afford the wages of the board while they are not even contacted by survivors that are paying there wages.Shameful Fraud imposed on Survivors by the Abusers

Patrick, padraig same person ? I have had dealings with this person and again ignored and bounced on to another advisor, ive been through 4 so far and have been ignored by all, i generally get moved on to someone new when i point out the crappy job they are doing and push for answers on why i am being refused help.

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