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Catholic institutions still owe the State hundreds of millions of euro in contributions that were promised after the church abuse scandals.


Catholic institutions still owe the State hundreds of millions of euro in contributions that were promised after the church abuse scandals, according to new figures obtained by the Labour party.
The figures show that out of €348m pledged last year in cash and property after the Ryan report, just 6% has been handed over. No property has been transferred.
More than €26m is still outstanding from the original Indemnity Deal.
Under that deal, negotiated in 2002, the religious congregations pledged to hand over €128m in cash and property.
At the time the Government said this would cover half of the cost of compensating victims.
However, since that Indemnity Deal, the State has paid out more than €1bn in legal fees and compensation payments to victims.
The data was given to Labour's Ruairi Quinn in response to a Parliamentary Question.
Mr Quinn said he believed the public would be disappointed and angered at the slow pace of the payments.
He said he hoped it did not represent an attempt by the congregations to renege on the agreement.
He called on the Government to insist the pace of payments and property transfers was accelerated.

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Comment by Kathleen O'Malley. on December 18, 2010 at 18:27

Mr Quinn.

To think the public are disappointed is an understatement.

This money was agreed in total not just 10/o (ten per cent).

Why hasn't  the Government sent in the BALIFFS or taken C.O.R.I. to Court. What are you waiting for?

They signed a binding agreement. It is now eight years on. 

The Government hounded my Mother for payment, towards my IMPRISONNMENT in Mount Carmel Industrial School in Moate. Co. Westmeath, to be paid to the Religious, when we were taken from her by the State. 

Certainly one rule for them and another for us. this happened on a regular basis I AM SURE MANY OF YOU READING THIS WILL HAVE THE SAME SAD TALE. 

This organisation preach morality? hardly an example. AS USUAL THEY ARE BEING ALLOWED TO RENEGE ON THEIR PROMISE.

Kathleen O'Malley.  "Childhood Interrupted"

Comment by Kathleen O'Malley. on December 19, 2010 at 18:52



Talking with a friend and discussing a name we could refer to the Irish Government and the Religious in Ireland(Catholic Church.)  We were hard pressed to find any species to offend or stoop  low enough as they have.

My conclusion is until someone comes up with something more appropriate.

THEY ARE LOWER THAN A SNAKES BELLY.  There is no offence meant to this species. 

Kathleen O'Malley. "Childhood Interrupted"

Comment by Rob Northall on December 20, 2010 at 1:52


Vatican Bank hit by financial scandal... again

Investigators are closing in on the Pope's bank, dissatisfied by claims that it will change its ways

By Victor Simpson and Nicole Winfield

Sunday, 19 December 2010


St Peter's Square on 8 December during the Angelus noon prayer

This is no ordinary bank. The ATMs are in Latin, priests use a private entrance, and a life-sized portrait of Pope Benedict XVI hangs on the wall. Nevertheless, l'Istituto per le Opere di Religione (the Institute for Religious Works) is a bank, and it is under harsh new scrutiny, including money-laundering allegations that led police to seize €23m (£19.5m) in Vatican assets in September. Critics say the case shows that the "Vatican Bank" has never shed its penchant for secrecy and scandal.

The Vatican calls the seizure of assets a "misunderstanding" and expresses optimism that it will be cleared up quickly. But court documents show that prosecutors say the Vatican Bank deliberately flouted anti-laundering laws "with the aim of hiding the ownership, destination and origin of the capital". The documents also reveal investigators' suspicions that clergy may have acted as fronts for corrupt businessmen and the Mafia. The documents pinpoint two transactions that have not been reported: one in 2009 involving the use of a false name, and another in 2010 in which the Vatican Bank withdrew €650,000 from an Italian bank account but ignored bank requests to disclose where the money was headed.

The new allegations of financial impropriety could not have come at a worse time for the Vatican, already hit by revelations that it sheltered paedophile priests. The corruption probe has also given new hope to Holocaust survivors who tried unsuccessfully to sue the Vatican in the US, alleging that Nazi loot was stored in the bank.

Yet the scandal is hardly the first for the centuries-old bank. In 1986, a Vatican financial adviser died after drinking cyanide-laced coffee in prison. Another was found dangling from a rope under London's Blackfriars Bridge in 1982, his pockets stuffed with money and stones. The incidents blackened the bank's reputation, raised suspicions of ties with the Mafia, and cost the Vatican hundreds of millions of dollars in legal clashes with Italian authorities.

On 21 September, financial police seized assets from a Vatican Bank account at the Rome branch of Credito Artigiano. Investigators said the Vatican had failed to furnish information on the origin or destination of the funds, as required by Italian law. The bulk of the money, €20m, was destined for the American JP Morgan's Frankfurt branch in Germany, with the remainder going to Banca del Fucino, an Italian bank. Prosecutors alleged the Vatican ignored regulations that foreign banks must communicate to Italian financial authorities where their money has come from. All banks have declined to comment.

In another case, financial police in Sicily said in late October that they had uncovered money laundering in- volving the use of a Vatican Bank account by a priest in Rome whose uncle was convicted of association with the Mafia. Authorities say some €250,000, illegally obtained from the regional government of Sicily for a fish-breeding company, was sent to the priest by his father as a "charitable donation", then sent back to Sicily from a Vatican Bank account using a series of home-banking operations to make it difficult to trace.

The prosecutors' office stated in court papers last month that while the bank has expressed a "generic and stated will" to conform to international standards, "there is no sign that the institutions of the Catholic Church are moving in that direction". It said its investigation had found "exactly the opposite".

Legal waters are murky because of the Vatican's special status as an independent state within Italy. This time, Italian investigators were able to move against the Vatican Bank because the Bank of Italy classifies it as a foreign financial institution operating in Italy. However, in one of the 1980s scandals, prosecutors could not arrest the then bank head Paul Marcinkus, an American archbishop, because Italy's highest court ruled he had immunity. Marcinkus, who died in 2006 and always proclaimed his innocence, was the inspiration for Archbishop Gilday in Francis Ford Coppola's The Godfather: Part III.

The Vatican has pledged to comply with EU financial standards and create a watchdog authority. Gianluigi Nuzzi, author of Vatican SpA, a 2009 book outlining the bank's dealings, said it is possible the Vatican is serious about coming clean, but he is not optimistic. "I don't trust them," he said. "After the previous big scandals, they said 'we'll change' and they didn't. It's happened too many times." He said the structure and culture of the institution is such that powerful account holders can exert pressure on management. In addition, some managers are simply resistant to change.

The list of account holders is secret, though bank officials say there are some 40,000-45,000 among religious congregations, clergy, Vatican officials, and lay-people with Vatican connections. The bank chairman, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, who is also chairman of Santander's Italian operations, was brought in last year to bring the Vatican Bank in line with Italian and international regulations. Mr Gotti Tedeschi has been on a public speaking tour extolling the benefits of a morality-based financial system. "He went to sell the new image ... not knowing that inside the same things were still happening," Mr Nuzzi said. "They continued to do these transfers without the names, not necessarily in bad faith, but out of habit."

It does not help that Mr Gotti Tedeschi himself and the bank's number two, Paolo Cipriani, are under investigation for alleged violations of money-laundering laws. Both were questioned by Rome prosecutors on 30 September, although no charges have been filed. In his testimony, Mr Gotti Tedeschi said he knew little about the bank's day-to-day operations, noting that he had been in the job less than a year.

According to the prosecutors' interrogation transcripts, Mr Gotti Tedeschi deflected most questions about the suspect transactions to Mr Cipriani. He in turn said that when the Holy See transferred money without identifying the sender, it was the Vatican's own money, not a client's. Mr Gotti Tedeschi rejected a request for an interview but has stated that he questions the motivations of prosecutors. In a speech in October, he described a wider plot against the church, decrying "personal attacks on the Pope" and "the facts linked to paedophilia". As the Vatican proclaims its innocence, the courts are holding firm. An Italian court has rejected a Vatican appeal against the order to seize assets.

The Vatican Bank was founded in 1942 by Pope Pius XII to manage assets destined for religious or charitable works. The bank, located in the tower of Niccolo V, is not open to the public. There are about 100 staffers, 10 bank windows, a vault for safe-deposit boxes, and ATMs that open in Latin but can be accessed in modern languages. In another concession to modern times, the bank recently began issuing credit cards.

During the scandals three decades ago, the Sicilian financier Michele Sindona, who had been appointed by the Pope to manage the Vatican's foreign investments, brought in Roberto Calvi, a Catholic banker in northern Italy. After Sindona's banking empire collapsed in the mid-1970s, his links to the mob were exposed, sending him to prison in 1980 and his eventual death from poisoned coffee six years later. Calvi, who inherited his role, headed Banco Ambrosiano, which collapsed in 1982 after the disappearance of $1.3bn in loans made to dummy companies in Latin America. The Vatican had provided letters of credit for the loans.

Calvi was found a short time later hanging from scaffolding on Blackfriars Bridge, his pockets loaded with bricks and $11,700 in various currencies. After an initial ruling of suicide, murder charges were filed against five people, including a major Mafia figure, but all were acquitted after being tried. While denying wrongdoing, the Vatican Bank paid $250m to Ambrosiano's creditors. Both the Calvi and Sindona cases remain unsolved.

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Comment by Rob Northall on December 20, 2010 at 1:53

Where is the C.OR.I. Money

Comment by Kathleen O'Malley. on December 20, 2010 at 15:10

Corruption usually stems from the top. 

Any wonder C.O.R.I. have not obeyed the order made by the Government. 

When the Vatican is riddled with deceit corruption and devient characters.

Confession releaves them of any wrong doing. 

something wrong there'

They are likened to The Soviet Union, only now they do not have the same power, otherwise I may be on my way to Siberia..

Kathleen O'Malley.  "Childhood Interruptedd"

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