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To Mary Higgins

Just because I got redress on behalf of my mother, I've been refused Caranua.....Why?????
I have just left hospital after yet another suicide attempt. I need my top teeth replacing at the cost of £16,000 approx. Let's face it,
1.  It is illegal for you to with hold the money from us
2.  If the Church/State hadn't abused my mum in the way they did, I wouldn't have led my life the way it is.
3.  You feel a huge sense of control while people literally beg and plead for help.
4.  Well not me!!!! If I can't get Caranua to help I will raise the money myself and here's what I am going to do.....
I am making an amateur video of my life. This will contain Caranua and how the system continues to abuse us and how the money is really being spent. It will include the illegal procedures that you use.
There will be no stone left unturned. Then I shall find a TV station who will make a documentary around this.....
I will never go away without publicising what you have done and are still doing.
You are an abuser and you are abusing vulnerable people.
What's it like to abuse human beings? 
Me??? I couldn't live with myself if I did to people the things that you do.
Elizabeth H Dormer.

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Comment by Rob Northall on January 23, 2016 at 19:40

So, If I am reading this right You, Yourself where never in an Industrial School but Received the Redress Because of the impact that your Mothers life there had on you?

This must be some sort of President?

As a Recipient of Redress, I find it difficult that you have been denied Access to a Fund for Recipients of Redress, have you contacted the independent Appeals Office?

Comment by patricia davitt on January 23, 2016 at 21:26
Please tell me I reading this wrong this Elizabeth was never in convent I myself was in one thoes places for 16 years my children never got help from redness board this is wrong my daughter is not well lack vit Dso she losing her teeth suffering with stroks stress so can you please tell me how to go about my children some help p Davitt please excuse spellings never went school.This is totally wrong that this Elizabeth get our money
Comment by Rob Northall on January 23, 2016 at 21:30
In fighting is not the answer!

It's the rules and regulations of Caranua that are in question?

The other question is that Lizzie has somehow set a President fior Redress that needs exploring not challenging?
Comment by Rob Northall on January 23, 2016 at 21:33
We should be demanding more inclusion not exclusion.

The State and Church still have a lot to answer for?
Comment by Rob Northall on January 23, 2016 at 22:01
Patricia, I'm sorry to hear about your daughters situation.
We need to represent ourselves so that all are assisted and no one is ruled out.
Comment by HELEN MORAN on January 24, 2016 at 0:20

I think our children should have access to Caranua as I am sure our upbringing has impacted on their lives as we had no love or security and dreadful role models who beat the hell out of us.

Comment by Elizabeth Dormer on January 24, 2016 at 12:45

Hi guys.....The redress I got wasn't directly for me. In the rules of redress it states that a survivor my apply for redress on behalf of a parent who is deceased and must have died no more than 5 or 7 years. After 7 years has passed from the day of dying, nobody can claim. So I claimed for my mum and because I'm the only surviving relative, it came to me but not in my name, it was oficially her redress. They wouldn't accept relatives. 

This took me 13 years to fight and twice I got turned down....I persevered. So in effect, sorry if I've mislead any of you but yes....only industrial shcool survivors are eligable to redress.

Comment by Elizabeth Dormer on January 24, 2016 at 12:56

I agree that children of survivors should have many children of survivors, what happened in the industrial school was reenacted in my life. I think my poor old mum thought she was still there. She was so ill that in today's world I'd have been put into care myself.

She had no friends, she was extremely violent, It was very scary living a life like that. Apart from the violence, I've adopted her ways and basically as a result have borderline personality disorder, anorexia, suicide ideation, self harm and the list goes on. My mental health emerged in my teenage years but my mum punished me for that too.

She wouldn't have been able to join a site like this as she was anti 'people'. She did the best she could at being a recluse with children.

Sadly my brother died.

My sister left because seh said she couldn't carry on paying the price for what the nuns did. I haven't seen or heard from her for 30 years.

I stayed with my mum till the end..

Comment by Elizabeth Dormer on January 24, 2016 at 14:21

I have deleted my last two posts as I was rather upset by some blogs. 


Comment by Rob Northall on January 24, 2016 at 15:13

ThanX for sharing with us Lizzie it must have been hard!

You wouldn't be the first person to post a comment or two in the heat of the moment; the fact you thought better of them and took them down is to your credit!

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