The Shame of Ireland
Can't Believe how Outraged I was when I read the Following! Read it and See if YOU Feel the Same?
Call for exhumation of ‘Little Nellie’ to allow faithful to pray
Bishop of Cork wants remains of Ellen Organ to be moved from convent grounds
Little Nellie, seen in this illustration, suffered from TB and was placed in the care of the nuns at the Good Shepherd Convent in 1907
by Louise Roseingrave
First published: Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 08:11
The Bishop of Cork hopes the body of a five-year-old girl who died more than 100 years ago can be exhumed to allow people to pray at her graveside.
Bishop John Buckley has called for the remains of “Little Nellie” (Ellen Organ – depicted in the illustration above) to be moved from the grounds of a convent bought by developers in 2005.
The now-derelict Good Shepherd Convent at Sunday’s Well became the property of Ulster Bank and KPMG in 2010. Gaining graveside access required permission from the owners, Dr Buckley said. “They would be reluctant from a security point of view,” he said.
Little Nellie was born in 1903 and became known for a spiritual awareness deemed extraordinary for a young child. She suffered from TB and was placed in the care of the nuns at the Good Shepherd Convent in 1907. She died in 1908 but received Holy Communion before her death, prompting Pope St Pius X to lower the age for communicants from 12 to seven.
“She was buried in St Joseph’s Cemetery but was exhumed and reburied within the convent grounds at the nuns’ request,” Dr Buckley said.
At the time of the exhumation, a year after Nellie’s death, her remains were found to be intact.
“There were four people present at that first exhumation, including two nurses, and they witnessed her body was intact. After her reburial, many favours were recorded,” Dr Buckley said.
My First Response was surely this is St Finbarr's Industrial School, so why were they rewriting History by stating "she was in the Care of the Nuns"
Had the Irish Times Never Heard of Industrial Schools or Read the Commission into Child Abuse? A.K.A. as the "Ryan Report"
I Tweeted the Author and got this Reply
@blueskylou Is this Your article in the Irish Times? http://t.co/qRMgUqxAqj Did she not Die in St Finbarrs Industrial School?— Shame Of Ireland (@ShameOfIreland) August 19, 2015
@ShameOfIreland Hi, yes - info in article as related by Bishop Buckley— Louise Roseingrave (@blueskylou) August 19, 2015
So the Bishop supplied the Copy which was Printed Verbatim?
I did a little Digging and found this very Biased Account of the Good Shepherd Nuns
"The death of her mother
In 1905 the family moved to Spike, an island fort situated in Cork Harbor. The mother's health, which had never been robust, now visibly deteriorated.
Pious and devout, Mrs. Organ turned in her last months entirely to God, and her rosary was never out of her hands. Toward the end she clung to Nellie with such transports of affection that the child had to be torn, almost rudely, from her dying embrace. She died of consumption (tuberculosis) in January, 1907.
The eldest of the Organ children was only nine at the time and her father was engaged throughout the day in his military duties, so initially a charitable neighbor gave occasional help in the Organ household. However since the children were so young and couldn't help much with all the necessary household duties, it was soon realized that this makeshift arrangement was a poor one, and in addition it was discovered that Nellie was painfully delicate and was requiring special care, for it was soon discovered that she had a crooked spine, though this was not recognized completely until she came into the care of the Good Shepherd Sisters. Sitting upright in a chair was painful for her and in fact holding her body still for any length of time pained her a great deal. Her hip and her twisted back were out of joint. She cried, but there was no loving mother to soothe and comfort her. Nellie's father at length realized that he could not carryon any longer in a motherless family, so he asked a kind priest friend to find a home in some convent for his forlorn orphans.
Nellie and her sister is sent to the Good Shepherd Sisters
The priest friend came to his assistance, and with his kind help each of the little ones was provided with a home in the charitable institutions of the diocese. Thomas was sent to the School of the Brothers of Charity at Upton; David, the younger brother, to the convent school of the Sisters of Mercy, Passage West; and it was arranged that Mary and Nellie should be sent to live at St. Finbarr's Industrial School conducted by the Sisters of the Good Shepherd at Sunday's Well, in the city of Cork, Ireland.
Nellie and her sister arrived on May 11th, 1907. It was with truly maternal care that Mary and Nellie were surrounded there by the kind Good Shepherd Sister and Nellie was truly happy there, and she called all the Sisters "Mothers." Upon her arrival Nellie was three years and nine months old; she would live the remaining eight months of her life with the Sisters."
The Names Of "Upton" "Passage West" & St Finbarr's will strike a chord of Terror with anyone who has ever set foot there! AND How can the Catholic Church Continue to Ignore the Findings of the Commission into Child Abuse?
The very tone of the Bishops Request and Explanation, along the account from MysticsOfTheChurch.Com is a Whitewash and Fabrication Denying the Holocaust of the Industrial Schools and the 600,000 Children who were damaged by them!
A few days later the the issued was Discussed on Cork FM click the Link bellow and Skip to 22 Minutes and 20 Seconds
To Hear Discussion on Cork FM Opinion Line click this Link?
This Really Does beg the Question "How Many Children are Buried in the Cemetery at St Finbarr's Industrial School?"
Bellow is a Letter written by a Facebook Friend of Mine, I was so touched with the Humanity of it; I have Reproduced it with her Permission
Rose Brien Harrington's Letter to Bishop Buckley about Little Nellie
20 August at 18:07 ·
This is the letter I sent to John Buckley, RC bishop of Cork and Ross, ie. the man who wants to dig up the body of a dead child, yet again, and move her somewhere more convenient than the grounds of the Magdalene laundry in Sundays Well. It's nothing but religious tourism.
Dear Mr Buckley
I am writing to express my anger and disgust at your proposal to reinter, for the second time, the remains of Ellen Organ. Firstly there are no good reasons to exhume and reinter her body other than commercial ones, ie. she made money for the Good Shepherd nuns in the years after her death. Is there not there a line in Scripture which goes “remember, man, that thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return”? Surely the needless disturbance of Ellen Organ’s remains contravene this teaching?
Secondly, and this is probably of even more import, Ellen Organ is interred in the grounds of Sundays Well convent which operated as a Magdalene laundry for many years. My great aunt, Esther Harrington, spent 70 years of her life, from age 14 to her death in 1987 at age 84, incarcerated in that awful place. The nuns would not let her out because she was an excellent seamstress and was financially valuable to them, although she was never paid a penny for the work she did. I recall her working well into her 70s when she could surely have expected to be allowed to retire. In fact, when my grandparents attempted to “claim her out” in the 1930s they were threatened with financial ruin by a local priest here in Cobh. My grandmother had been housekeeper to Bishop Brown and was married from his house, by him. She thought she was well respected in the Roman Catholic Church but apparently she was not. With three young children they could not afford to lose their sweetshop, coal round and their home. Incidentally, the “registers” held by the Good Shepherd order are erroneous in their record of Esther’s life. I know the true story because my relatives, ie grandmother, father, great aunts and aunts all knew what had happened and when. Sadly they are all deceased now and cannot bear witness.
After Esther’s death she was put into a mass grave in St Joseph’s cemetery in Ballyphehane. I was ill with cancer at the time and hence was not able to attend her funeral. When I traced her grave in 2013 I discovered that the nuns had failed to put her name on the headstone of the grave. Indeed on the other Good Shepherd grave in St Josephs there are no fewer than four discrepancies which were discovered by Conall O Fatharta of the Irish Examiner and were admitted by the nuns. They still overlooked Esther though. When I contacted them I was told by a Brid Mullins of the Good Shepherd Order that it was an oversight and she was sure I understood. Yes, I understood only too well. Esther was no longer of any benefit to the nuns and they saw no reason to accord her the dignity of her name on the headstone of her grave. 70 years of service were simply forgotten about.
Back to the present and there is a grave containing the bodies of approximately thirty women, although history would suggest that there are more than thirty women buried in the grounds of Sundays Well. The official grave, that is to say the one with the headstone and inscriptions, is now behind a locked gate, surrounded by an 8ft wall and is derelict, having been vandalised and neglected. The relatives of the women cannot visit their grave, it is completely inaccessible.
If you are so anxious that people should be able to visit Ellen Organ’s grave (although it is unlikely that there are many still alive who knew her and she obviously had no children of her own) then why are you not anxious that the relatives of the Magdalene women should be able to visit THAT grave? Are these women still of no human importance to the Roman Catholic Church? Of course, Ellen Organ’s grave draws “religious tourists” who will, no doubt, leave “offerings” and I am of the belief that that is your first concern. Otherwise, surely you would not be disturbing the body of a dead child for the second time?
If you are so concerned with the graves in Sundays Well why do you not arrange to have the Magdalene grave refurbished and repaired in order to allow relatives to visit? Better still, why do you not force the Good Shepherd order to compensate the survivors of the Magdalene laundries they ran with slave labour? It is too late for Esther but there are many women whose lives have been adversely affected by their incarceration in these institutions. I have yet to meet one, and I have met many, who will say that it was in any way a positive experience. The survivors speak of beatings, neglect, starvation, long hard working hours for no payment, constant belittling of them and erosion of their self respect and, indeed, their very humanity at times. Many of them speak of sexual abuse in these places also. Can you not see what an insult, following injury, your idea of reinterring Ellen Organ, for the second time, is to these women? They never asked for the treatment they got and they certainly did not deserve it for no one deserves to be treated in an inhumane fashion.
I must tell you, Mr Buckley, that the days of the Roman Catholic Church’s ability to ride roughshod over society, and over women and children in particular, are well and truly over. There are large groups of us, some victims, some family members like myself and some people who just support the victims because they feel, quite rightly, that the Roman Catholic Church has treated women and children appallingly for far too long. We have no intention of allowing you to spit on the memories of these women any longer and you will find a massive amount of resistance to your rather disgusting plan.
I do not expect to receive any kind of reply to this letter as, in my experience, Roman Catholic clergy take a lofty and superior approach to anyone who points out their shortcomings and who does not buckle under their self assumed authority. I am proud to say that your organisation has never had any kind of authority over me because I had the strength of character to get away from it at a very young age. I thank God that he did give me that strength and I thank God for the ability to fight against a regime that uses the name of Jesus in order to commit evil deeds.
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I reckon the nuns hoped to (and probably did) make a few bob on the remains of this incarcerated child .... and they continued the incarceration even after her death.
All of the children buried in former institutions grounds - or in Institutional mass graves - should be exhumed and re-interred in cemeteries near where their families lived. The clergy just shouldn't be holding these graves. The one at Letterfrack was, to all intents and purposes, abandoned by the CBs and it took a group of survivors to refurbish it and honour the children.
Follow the money.
Crimes Against Children.
Thank you for this - I remember a story of little Nelly I heard as a child - it was that she was so Holy and wanted to make Her First Holy Communion that when she was at a Mass for First Holy Communion children the Chalice flew down and rested over her head that the priest felt compelled by God to give Little Nelly First Holy Communion - I think my beloved mother really believed that story. Yet when I recently noted in Birr Co Offaly the grave of St John's orphans - due to my own suffering at the hands of Pharma/Medical/Church/State cartel of torture - I knew instantly that it was a mass grave of little girls, used, abused, tortured in Pharma trials and then killed off as of insufficient use to the Pharma industry. I am one of their testing specimens at present and every hour is a miracle - only back in Ireland less than two weeks and Novartis desperate to get their specimen back - poisoned again today - but this is not about me - I have lived some good parts and some worrying times in my life and as an adult HSE/State/Church picked me for experiments just out of Auschwitz. Those mass graves of babies, little children, women throughout Ireland - we are talking at least one/5 million in the last 100 years. As some of you know from my blogs on Sean Ross Abbey and other places I went on a journey - I thought I could reach out to Sean Ross Abbey nuns of today (now known as St Annes - already under a HIQA investigation - I wrote to Ministers - I appealed to Sr Stan Kennedy, to Archbishop Martin and to the UN throughout Europe. I know now that that the only truth lies within this Website and with every tortured child/now adult/groups such as abused/tortured adults like myself and the Symphsiotomy women - there has been no change, no peace, no retribution for all of you here who suffered - nothing has changed - priests are now in 2015 given permission by the State to call on communities to seek out loners - anyone who may keep to themselves and not mix with GAA/Mass/ or other community functions - to seek them out as "they may need support from the Mental Health services and the Text Alert Scheme I can confirm to you all is running from here to the UN High Commissioner's Office - we are all products for Pharma. Little Nellie's twisted back was obviously from some experiment done on her - experiments of twisting spine and pelvic bones has been done on me and many women who may have been separated, divorced or widowed are being medically raped and violated and their organs slashed from them. Archbishop Martin, Sr Stan, refuge centres for women in Ireland are all the entrapments for women today - and Novartis/Medical/Church/State have women raped repeatedly to demean them - nothing has changed and this is 2015 - we do not need riots but we need protests like the Water Protests - just like water is a necessity so is safety in life and safe healthcare. In Liseaux in France lies the relics of St Teresa - in a heavily gold Basillica - St Teresa of Liseaux would not rest in peace if she saw the wealth adorned around her remains and in another part of the Basillica lies relics from her parents in a Gold or Golden Casket -and the call now is to canonise them also - where inside visitors are of wealth - outside at the gates in the car park stands the true spirit of Christ in 2/3 old men - their ragged clothes holding their tired out limbs in place, their burnt faces from the ongoing European "sun" - they put out their hand/their cup for a few coins - and yet they have the true Christ in their eyes, in their faces and in their smiles of Thank you for the smallest of alms - when I think of Archbishop Martin - I remember his crocodile tears and I know for definite within my being that he is not a man of God despite his mantra of good - he is indeed a sneaky trespasser of God and Holiness and a true disciple of the Catholic Church of evil - the Pharma General for human life - he is paid millions from Novartis and other Pharma as is the Irish State for human life - and they all so willingly supply our so innocent lost lives - I am sorry this is so long - I should have done a post - but this is for all the Members and the Administrator to say Yes we have all had enough of the pomp, the lies, the torture - Peaceful Protests of Truth will follow...may Little Nellie and all the little children and lost women Rest in Peace as they all were murdered. Fr Sean Healy of Civil Liberties is heading up this community search for loners for Mental Health control. His brother works in the HSE.
"Fr Sean Healy of Civil Liberties is heading up this community search for loners for Mental Health control. His brother works in the HSE."
Similarly trying to say most Irish children need mental health help.
The children need help after the HSE, social workers etc are done mentally torturing them and murdering their souls.
This is happening in 2015. The more mental problems the children have the more ££££ is created to spend on them for drugs etc.....and then we find the ones who suicide out were on these legal drugs, or suffered in custody of the state.
ECT to silence the abuse children.
HSE and gardai refusing to investigate crimes of the state.
No change since the Jesuit take over.
Oliver Cromwell created the fanatical Irish Roman Catholicism!!
A "free" State for pedophile monks!!
By 1920, these lay monks had established reformatories all over Ireland. The reformatories were actually slave labor camps for children somewhat like the Gulags in Russia.
Under the British system, reformatories were phased out by the end of the 19th century. Children of broken homes were placed in foster care with other families. Not so in Ireland. These corrupt monks wanted to have access to the children at any cost.
Éamon de Valera (1882-1975).
As long as Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, the number of young children available to the monks was severely limited.
The creation of the "free" state in 1922 changed all that.
The new government worked with the monks to incarcerate young children behind thick prison walls.
Most of the young boys and girls committed to the reformatories were orphans or came from broken homes. Judges sentenced them to the prisons until they were 16 years old.
Military style dormitories.
The monks (who took vows of poverty) got a substantial sum from the government for every child thus incarcerated
Fr. Flanagan was horrified to discover the widespread use of severe physical punishment in industrial and reformatory schools (and in prisons) in Ireland. In a statement issued to the press at the end of his visit to Ireland in July 1946, he described these institutions as "a disgrace to the nation."'
He had given a series of public lectures in cities around the country. His packed audiences invariably included senior members of the Catholic Church. In Limerick and Waterford, for example, the local bishops were in attendance.
He used the opportunities provided to elaborate on his own child care philosophy - to love, support and encourage the children in his care. But he also contrasted the approach of Boys Town USA to the attitudes towards children in care in Ireland. Addressing a packed audience at the Savoy Cinema in Cork, he stated: "You are the people who permit your children and the children of your communities to go to these institutions of punishment. You can do something about it, first by keeping your children away from these institutions." These remarks brought prolonged applause from the audience.
The Irish Government, however, was not quite so ecstatic about Fr. Flanagan's criticisms of its child care institutions. Fianna Fail's Gerry Boland, the then Minister for Justice, responded angrily. In Dail Eireann, on 23rd of July 1946, he accused Fr. Flanagan of using "offensive and intemperate language" concerning "conditions about which he as no firsthand knowledge." Father Flanagan was poisoned for exposing the pedophile monks!!
I Can Very Much Relate Teri. There Can Be No Peace In Ireland Without Justice And Everybody In Ireland Needs To Know The Meaning!