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Questions Survivors would like to ask the Public Accounts Committee Regarding Caranua

I think its only fair that Survivors should be able to ask for an Inquiry into Caranua from the Public Accounts Committee?

Its fair to say that using a simple management tool and a calculator that this runaway Train could have been predicted Months  and Months ago!

A Straight line Graph shows a Steady Trend!

A Graph that takes a rapid upturn is less easy to predict

As you can see a Competent Manager would have predicted this early on and gone back to the Minister asking for more funds!

The Steepest part of the Graph is December 2014 to February 2015, this would have rung alarm bells for me!

So now they want to Cap Applicants could they have seen this coming?

As you can see the answer is a resounding Yes!

All Data is Taken from Caranua's  own Website!

I am Deeply indebted to ROBERT for getting me to think about and analyse these figures!

I'm sure he has his own observation to add?

As I'm sure you all will?

I look forward to your Comment and Questions for the Public Account Committee

Further Reading

Public Accounts Committee Thursday, 13 October 2016 Raised the Subj...

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Comment by Marylou on June 21, 2016 at 18:10

sure is jack

Comment by micheal on June 21, 2016 at 18:17

Jack if we get approved for help from the Irish human rights commission, they will either represent us or pay for legal representation, im not sure if legal aid is available for civil suit i would love to be wrong on that one, the ihrec told us they would have an answer for us around the end of june so fingers crossed on that one, 

Comment by micheal on June 21, 2016 at 18:21

The wrongs just go on and on i am waiting for information from caranua for a complete costs break down, wages, expenses, pr drives, media campaigns, website development and posh hotel jaunts under the guise of meetings, should make for an interesting read, if and when i get it of course.

Comment by jack colleton on June 21, 2016 at 18:22

Michael:  Whatever Or Whichever The Need Is Evident.

Comment by micheal on June 21, 2016 at 18:23

Indeed it is Jack.

Comment by jack colleton on June 21, 2016 at 18:30

Perceived Intimidation And Threats: -

 A Case Can Be Forwarded That Some Survivors 1, May Not Apply To Caranua In The First Place For Assistance If They Feel  Intimidated Or Threatened  2,  Some Survivors May Not Appeal Any Caranua Decision With Respect To Their Already Stated Needs Refused If They Feel  Intimidated Or Threatened.

Comment by jack colleton on June 21, 2016 at 18:30

Such Being Surely Against The Legislation And An Injustice.

Comment by robert on June 21, 2016 at 21:49

Hi Elizabeth GREAT QUESTION this is the one Question EVERYONE is AVOIDING.

ANSWER is In 2002 Redress agreements the Education fund covered Survivors and their Families but only Immediate relatives meaning Husband partner wife or partner and CHILDREN of Survivors.

It was not known until Parents of YOUNG CHILDREN tried to get funds for their Education Development and Skills these were only covered for Older Relatives by the Education Ministers office.

NOW the Same Education Office of Ireland has been ducking and diving their responsibility to these younger children they KNOW FULLY WELL they did NOT ALLOW to the 2002 Redress education fund.

The Education Ministers Woods Quinn and recently O Sullivan have all gave this Issue regarding young Children A WIDE WIDE BIRTH avoiding anything to do with funding our CHILDREN in SCHOOLS because this would mean having to fund and PAY for PROPER EDUCATION DEVELOPMENT AND SKILLS for the damage done to Families and then there will be open RECORDS and the Ministers office would have to answer PROPERLY to how these Children are benefiting and not cover up as they have done everything so far.

Meaning there is no documentation that show how many survivors Relatives actually benefited from the 2002 redress EDUCATIONAL fund as it was claimed to be a Majority as this false CARANUA fund they claim the majority want this SHAM and the Religious SHRINE of a TOILET Quinn called a memorial. ALL BOLLOX.

This sick Minister then had the FILTHY AUDACITY to go on a public speech on the RYAN REPORT of all Childhood ABUSE Documents that we can Redress their Children their children children's and  their children JUST BEFORE THIS LIAR set up the CARANUA FUND, HIS OPEN WORDS we have LIMITED TIME WHAT TIME? then GOES ON TO SPEW THE LIES I MENTION ON OUR CHILDREN  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqsjuiHIzc  I want that LYING BASTARD to APOLOGIZE for LYING ON OUR CHILDREN'S HEADS on such a sensitive issue regarding Abuse of their PARENTS AS CHILDREN.

HE KNEW he was to DUMP CHILDREN from ALL FUNDS as he and his FILTHY Government set up yet another rule for this CARANUA fund 2012 ten years later NO CHILDREN NO DEPENDANTS because WAI FOR IT?

BECAUSE ALL IMMEDIATE RELATIVES were INCLUDED in the 2002 REDRESS EDUCATION FUND

 EXCERPT  from the next link - copy and pasted here  ((This approach differs from that which applied in the case of the now dissolved Education Finance Board which was financed by the €12.7 million contribution provided by the religious congregations under the 2002 Indemnity Agreement specifically earmarked for educational support for former residents and their families.))

that Link is here I had Clare Daly ask in Dail Eireann

http://www.caranua.ie/news/524/parliamentary_questions___22_septemb...

NOW you can see SOLID PROOF on the LIES by the IRISH GOVERNMENT ON YOUNG CHILDREN)

It said and their FAMILIES ( NO NOT CHILDREN WHO NEED EDUCATION FEES DEVELOPMENTAL AND SKILLS FEES who are Growing up asking questions where is the REST OF THEIR FAMILIES )

This is NOT about the MONEY  this is NOT just About the FUNDS it is about the LIES and DECIET by EDUCATION MINISTERS on Survivors of Abuse own YOUNG CHILDREN

A DOWN RIGHT FECKEN DISGRACE I could NOT touch a fund due to the same thing happening here as it did when I was a child Moved around from INSTITUTION TO INSTITUTION to HIDE ME FROM MY FAMILY.

NOW YOU ALL HAVE IT the LIES and DECEIT of the EDUCATION MINISTERS 

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RAISING THE QUESTION ELIZABETH VERY VERY MUCH YOU ARE THE FIRST WOULD YOU BELIEVE WE CANNOT IGNORE THIS SCANDEL the EDUCATION MINISTER THE GROUPS THE RELIGIOUS THE HSE AND ALL WHO REFUSED TO PICK UP ON THIS THOSE WHO IGNORE IT ARE JUST TO BLAME Like the MEDIA who KNEW.

 THIS IS A MASSIVE COVER-UP the WORST so FAR as what they did to us and our FAMILIES they have done HERE. with both REDRESSES 2002 and ten years later 2012  This does NOT mean any less money for Survivors  what it means is are we to allow this DECIET of OUR CHILDHOODS be REPEATED in OUR OWN CHILDREN?

 

Comment by robert on June 21, 2016 at 21:50

All the Education Ministers are doing is REPEATING THE SAME BULLSHIT

Comment by jack colleton on June 22, 2016 at 0:22

And Why The Education Minister Anyway?  Why Not The Justice Minister?

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