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Reply I got from Mary, but she forgot to say your only allowed to spend €2000 on household goods,

Dear Mr Power

Thank you for your feedback, which you know is always welcome.

To answer your questions:

Under the new arrangements we offer household goods, not just white goods
We aim to address the needs of each individual so it is always going to be the case that people may be treated differently, but within the general rules of the scheme. I take your point that some people have received high value assistance from Caranua and that this will not be the case in the future. This decision was made in order to make sure that everyone who can apply will be able to receive assistance. It wasn’t possible for us to predict the number of applications or the level of demand when we started. Once we realised that those arrangements were not sustainable we changed them
I take your point about the survivors who are struggling and we are doing our best to reach out to where those individuals might be by working with community based services and services like prison, homeless and mental health services
We are not able to just divide the Fund by the number of eligible applicants but must have an application process. This is required by law.

I hope this make sense to you. I would like to point out that if you have not reached €15000, then it is open to you to make an application under the new arrangements and I would encourage you to make contact with your Advisor to discuss this.

Best wishes


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Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 15:58

Are they struggling on all the wages they take from the fund, if they are worried about survivors take less wages in fact dont take any at all because you dont deserve them. Also i am not allowed one cent for the house, one cent for dental treatment, which begs the question why?

Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 16:12

What are your thoughts on legal protection for survivors human rights and a means of enforcing them before a judge, because the way it is now they can do what they like and get away with it, much like the abusers did, they got a free pass because survivors were conned into taking part in the redress system, i dont see why caranua should get one. If i had known what i know now back then i would of taken them to court but mark my words no one will ever con me like that again.

Comment by Marylou on July 1, 2016 at 16:22

Came across this guys we are victims of crimes

The Government approved the drafting of a Criminal Justice (Victims of Crime) Bill along the lines of the general scheme below on 14 July 2015. The Bill will fulfil a Programme for Government commitment to enact legislation to strengthen the rights of victims of crime and their families. The Bill will place victims and their needs at the heart of the justice process. It provides that rights to information, advice and other appropriate assistance will be met effectively and efficiently. 

The Bill will also transpose into Irish law EU Directive 2012/29/EU establishing minimum standards on the rights, support and protection of victims of crime. 

Comment by Michael power on July 1, 2016 at 16:35
It's going from bad to worse, there saying what we can get and now how much u can spend item, and there saying you have to sine over to the new rules, to get household goods, and the other new items,
Comment by Marylou on July 1, 2016 at 16:42

sure is boy Caranua new guidelines  if you live in a corporation house you have to  get a letter of the council to say they wont do the repairs my sister had  to go to the corporation in the letter they said they will do the repairs as soon as funding is available so she will be getting nothing sick to death of them all

Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 16:45

We are victims of a continuing crime Marylou, unless we have a mechanism for bringing omplaints as survivors and survivors familes before a judge in relation to our treatment at the hands of caranua or anyone else with their hands on our fund, they will continue in this fashion, they know the lack of precedent in this area and the lack of monies for survivors keep this way to complex for your standard solicitor to get involved, and yet we have a fund of over 110 million would it not make sense if caranua really had survivors best interests at heart that they would be funding such an action to ensure all survivors have this option now and forever, in one action you could forever ensure that survivors cant and will never be treated like this again.

Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 16:49

Complaints not omplaints of course, dam these touch screens:-)

Comment by Marylou on July 1, 2016 at 16:52

Agree fully with you and what your saying how do we go about doing that as a group 

Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 17:05

Private legal, the human rights commision, and on to the european human rights if we need to Marylou, we dont stop untill a system is in place where survivors who have an issue with any service provided from our funds or in our name can be brought before a judge. Its not as if higgins and co are going to turn around and say sorry guys we made a mistake here, their current and future careers are on the line here, i tried to engage caranua from day one on the issues but because of the egos they never listened, someday they will wish they had.

Comment by micheal on July 1, 2016 at 17:08

Also if that system was put in place a survivor does not need to be part of a group to avail of justice which is a thing i think is of the utmost importance, you cant leave survivors best interests in the hands of vested interests it has not worked and will never work.

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